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Robert Channing is one of the most amazing people I met at internet marketing conferences over the last three years. He partnered with Joe Vitale to create the Spiritual Marketing Super Summit. He coordinated the entire conference. He was outstanding as the Master of Ceremonies for the entire event.
Also, Robert was the main entertainment at the Awards Banquet. I was astounded at Robert's ability to use the amazing powers of his mind. He has created a brain-expanding, mind-blowing training program for students and companies called "Your Gold Mind System."
Robert also owns two talent agencies that book all the celebrities, movie stars,
sports heroes, politicians and entertainers. They are
Power Performers and College
and
Power Performers.
He performs his incredible mind-reading and mental-motivator program for over
150 college, universities and corporations every year. He is the perfect person
to demonstrate the incredible powers of the human mind.
We decided to work together to create a training program for students to use
more of their mental powers. Also, his talent agencies will promote the local
and international heroes discovered through the In Search Of Heroes Program.
Robert Channing's In Search Of Heroes Interview by Ralph Zuranski
Ralph Zuranski: Hi, this is Ralph Zuranski! I’m on the phone with Robert
Channing. He is one of the most amazing people that I have ever met. I met him
at Joe Vitale’s seminar Spiritual Marketing Super Summit. He had coordinated the
entire seminar, complete with the speakers and virtually everything that you
could possibly imagine that goes with a seminar - maintenance and just creation.
Robert also is one of the most impressive people that I have ever seen, using
his mind to bend spoons, to remember things and to know what people are
thinking. It was incredible. I’ve never been more blown away by somebody’s
presentation than Robert’s when he did a special presentation at Joe’s seminar.
So Robert, how are you doing today?
Robert Channing: I’m doing phenomenal, Ralph, and thank you very much for
inviting me on this. I’m very honored and I really appreciate you having me on
today.
Ralph Zuranski: You know, your company is called the Power Performers and I know
that you work a lot with scheduling movie stars, business leaders and some of
the most important people in the world today to speak at conventions and events.
Perhaps you could tell us a little bit about your company.
Robert Channing: Power Performers was created around nine years ago. How it came
to fruition is I have been a performer since I was five years old. I started
studying magic, mind reading, ESP and hypnosis. I studied with David
Copperfield, Harry Blackstone Jr., some of the top mentalists and magicians in
the world. I learned by actually watching them do what they do.
I learned from the best and I learned from the worst. I made it my life’s goal
to be a performer, to be a mentalist, a mind reader, ESP motivational person. I
studied Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill.
The first book I ever read on motivation was by Glen Bland. It was called the
Glen Bland Method for Success. It just taught me how you can change your life.
You draw a line in the sand and by just taking that step over; you can change
your life by changing your attitude and your strategies with your mind.
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When I was a child, Ralph, I learned how to do magic tricks and it brought
attention to me. I didn’t have that; I didn’t crave that. My mother was
fantastic, my father worked all the time and I never saw him. He was a great
guy, never made a lot of money but I never knew that. I was a happy guy who
played Army and Cowboys and Indians.
But as I grew older, I was into sports, and I was always into magic, how the
mind worked and I became an entertainer. I performed at birthday parties for
$15. For my first birthday party when I was 11 years old I performed for $15 and
I learned I could make money doing it and people loved what I did.
Then I began to performing all over the world. I performed for different
Presidents. I performed for corporations and for a lot of colleges and
organizations. At that point, the people at the organization said to me, “Hey,
Bob. Your mind reading ESP show is phenomenal. Do you have anybody else that can
entertain at our event or speak?”
At that point, I said, “I have a friend of mine that can do human calculations.
I have another friend of mine who is a rock star, Alice Cooper. He can come in
and talk about, for colleges, drug awareness. He can perform.” Then I created
the company Power Performers. So that was my unique selling proposition.
These were powerful people but are the best in their industry, just like you are
doing, Ralph. You’re interviewing the heroes in different industries that are
the best at what they do, the top 1%. And that’s what I did.
I created the speaker’s bureau, or an entertainment agency which is both. I
promote the top speakers, entertainers, sports stars, and business leaders in
the world to corporations, associations, colleges, private functions and
organizations throughout the country. So hopefully that answers your question.
Ralph Zuranski: Yes, it definitely does. Since you are working with the
top people in the industry, one of the major things I’ve realized with doing the
interviews of my heroes is the real heroes are people that actually provide a
quality service to society.
They help put people to work and the true definitions of those people are
entrepreneurs who are not afraid to step out on their own to follow their dream.
What is your definition of heroism?
Robert Channing: I just spoke to my wife about that this morning; because I told
her I was going to be on the line with you, Ralph. She said, and we agreed, it’s
the people that make a difference in one person’s life.
If I can make a difference in my neighbor’s life that morning or that afternoon,
maybe once a day and bring somebody up that’s been down or helped somebody, like
I know you are doing with your family, that’s a hero.
To me, if I can change one life, I don’t know who quoted this before, but it’s a
quote from somewhere. If you can change one person’s life, and make them happy,
make them feel better about themselves or help them in any other way, you’ve
actually helped humanity itself. That’s my definition of heroism.
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Ralph Zuranski: That’s so true.
Robert Channing: Helping one person at a time.
Ralph Zuranski: I totally agree. Did you ever create a secret hero in
your mind that helped you deal with life’s problems when you were young?
Robert Channing: Yes, I did. Well, God was my hero. I was brought up Catholic. I
was an altar boy for 11 years.
Ralph Zuranski: So was I.
Robert Channing: I remember sitting in a small church. I came from a little town
called Newport, New York. There were probably around three people in our little
town, one blinking light, one Catholic Church and one Methodist church.
I remember doing my services in the evening, the Stations of the Cross. There
were maybe like five or six people in the church. I’d be there myself before the
mass would start. I’d be there, present with a Being and that’s what I believed
that yes, there is a God, there is some Higher Power.
I think that by being by myself in that big open church and just thinking and
being open to thoughts in the Universe and to God, is what opened my mind to
reality and what I could do. I can’t describe it any more than that, it was just
a feeling that I had come over me.
Ralph Zuranski: What is your perspective on goodness, ethics, and moral
behavior?
Robert Channing: I know everybody has struggled with that. I have. I would say
that I’m 90% ethical and moral. There’s that 10% where sometimes you get tempted
by money or greed or temptation of any kind.
Sex, drugs, rock and roll, whatever you want to call it. I think my integrity is
up there with the top people in the world.
I think integrity is very, very important. If you cheat someone, you are
cheating yourself. It’s a multiple effect. If you want to track that in
business, if you do something well for someone, I’ve heard this, they are going
to go out and maybe tell one or two people.
But if you would hurt them in any way, or take advantage of them, it’s going to
multiply over 100 times backwards. You can track that as well, Ralph.
A friend of mine, Scott Holm that I hired as a business coach taught me that and
we tracked it one day. It’s better to do well than it is to do badly. I’ve
learned that all my life, you learn by trial and error as well. I think
integrity is the number one pursuit of happiness in a balanced life.
Ralph Zuranski: You know, it’s funny that you’d say that about the 90%
doing good and the 10%. One of the heroes that I interviewed is Gregory Allen
Williams. He’s the black cop on Baywatch; he actually saved a man’s life during
the L.A. riots. He said there is a little bit of bad in the best of us, and a
little bit of good in the worst of us.
When anybody steps up to help someone, they too can be a hero at that
moment in time. So he was willing basically to sacrifice his life if he had to,
to help others that were in difficulty during the LA riots. What do you think
are the principles that you are willing to sacrifice your life for?
Robert Channing: The principles that I’m willing to sacrifice my life for? I’ve
been struggling with that. Only because I give so much; I give, I give, and I
give, Ralph. It seems a lot of the time that it doesn’t come back to me by the
people I give to.
I’ve learned that you should not ask for it back. Or expect it back from the
people you give it to, although you would love to have that back. I’ve learned
from studying different books and the Bible as well is that if you give it to
someone; don’t expect it back from them.
It will come from somewhere else. It could come from a baby’s smile that you
just had, a newborn baby of yours. It could come from, someone gave you a kind
word on a plane or a smile or a thank you. Maybe you just won the lottery, you
don’t know. But it’s going to come somewhere else.
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Ralph Zuranski: When was the lowest point in your life and how did you change
your life path to win a victory over obstacles?
Robert Channing: The lowest point in my life? You know what? I’m an optimist.
There were two low points in my life. One was when I became a professional
entertainer, and I was very optimistic. I studied all the best people in the
world, and then I performed my show and I had another gentleman that was
jealous.
I was probably only about 18 years old and this gentleman was 36. I was in the
same market that he was in. He would try to shut me down and put me down,
because he saw how strong I was when I was performing. People were attracted to
me and they loved what I did.
It was the same type of mentalism that he did. Although it was different, it was
my personality and he had a different personality. He was jealous. Actually, it
hurt me. My own true feelings, I didn’t want anyone to feel bad about me. I
didn’t want anybody to look down and say this guy was bad, or this guy is doing
something wrong.
I almost felt guilty because I was doing so well for myself that people become
jealous of what I’ve done. Ralph, have you ever dealt with that before? Have you
done so well that people get jealous? How do you deal with those people?
Ralph Zuranski: Well, again, what you have to realize is that, what you
said earlier, the consequences of their actions and their personal integrity.
They are providing service to their client, realizing that you only succeed to
the level of quality of your products and your service to your customers. The
greater the service, the greater the quality, the greater your success.
When people strive to spread evil or not spread good, that has its own
consequences because it’s their thought process. If you have negative thoughts,
it’s going to ultimately generate negative in your life and it’s the seeds that
you sow.
Negative thoughts, negative actions will always reap a horrible harvest
somewhere down the line. Positive thoughts and positive action, you get rewards
but it might not be from the source where you actually did those positive
things.
But the universe is impeccable, it never fails and good will always be rewarded
with good, somewhere down the line or maybe immediately. Evil will always be
rewarded with evil; it’s an exponential type thing.
Robert Channing: I agree. It just came to my mind that when I was a child, when
people got mad at my mother, when people had something against her for some
goofy reason, or somebody said something, she would always wave to them. She
would always say hi. She would always have a kind word to them. My mother, I
call her a saint, she was phenomenal, and she still is. She always does well.
And that’s what I’ve learned to do, even when these people are trying to tear me
down in some way, I’ve always come back by being nice to them and have a kind
word for them. Even though, in the back of my mind, I’m like, I’d really like to
do something.
But by forgiving them and having peace with yourself, you’re actually helping
yourself as well as them. Because they don’t have anything to go back on, they
can’t keep their momentum going with trying to get feed off of your emotions.
Just let it go and keep working with it.
But what I learned from that experience is to keep moving ahead. I became
stronger from that, and I got into Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. It
says; don’t ever mind what they’re thinking, because they don’t know what you
can do. You only know what you can do.
Don’t mind the people that are pulling you down or are trying to. Just ignore
them and have your own schedule of events. Schedule your time. Schedule your
goals, what you want to do in this life.
They can pull at you all you want, but at the end of that, if you draw a line
from here and 100 yards from now and saying that’s the end of your goal, in
between you are going to have all the obstacles. But remember; keep your eye on
the target, at the end, because you will get there. It makes it easier.
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Ralph Zuranski: What is your dream or vision that sets the course of your life?
Robert Channing: My dream and vision that sets the course of my life would be to
create, plant seeds, grow trees that I could shade my family and friends with
when I pass on. So they can live off the fruits of my labor.
Also to provide information and success and knowledge to people like you are
doing. That’s why I’m on the line with you as well, is for the people that
struggle all their life, not knowing where they want to go.
I’ve performed for hundreds of colleges a year. People come up to me after my
program and always say, “What do you see in my future? What should I do with my
life?”
Tony Robbins always says, “If you don’t know, pretend that you do know.” What
would you do? And most people will come up with the answer. At that point,
that’s the toughest part in the world is trying to find out what you want to do
with your life. Once you know, you can plan your course of action.
So, by planting those seeds in these students’ minds or the minds of people that
are listening today, it’s probably one of the toughest questions. Wouldn’t you
agree, Ralph? What do you want to do with your life?
Ralph Zuranski: I absolutely agree. I’m just listening to Earl
Nightingale in The Strangest Secret of the Mind of Man. That’s what he says, 95%
of all the people who strive when they are young to become a success end up
failures because they never set any goals. They are not working for anything or
in any direction.
Robert Channing: They are like a ship without a rudder. If they don’t have a
rudder, they are just going to wash up upon the shore or the rocks. If you have
a rudder, you can steer your ship. You can steer your way through the seas and
as you coast along, the winds blowing your sail, you have learned to work for
that. Then you are going to get into some rough waters again and you steer your
way through there.
Ralph Zuranski: It’s interesting that you say that, because the next
question is, is it important to take a positive view of setbacks, misfortunes
and mistakes?
Robert Channing: It definitely is. Believe me; even the most positive person in
the world has their setbacks. You can be a positive thinker but you have to take
control. You have to say to yourself, you need time to grieve if something
happens.
I forget the steps in the grieving process, but you need to get back off the
floor. If you get knocked down, you’re into martial arts, Ralph, and I have been
too. When you get knocked down, you need to pop back up.
It’s going to take some time after you get the wind knocked out of you to get
back up, but the reason you have to get back up is if you don’t, you stay down.
You’re going to lose.
Don’t ever give up. Always get back up, dust yourself off, and keep moving
forward. You will get ahead, you will. You will learn. You will take the bumps
and bruises.
Just study as well. Keep the positive, motivational talking coming through your
mind. All the videos and audio courses that I have taken in the country meaning
like Dreams Don’t Have Deadlines by Mark Victor Hansen, has a great audio
course. Where you are reading right now and listening to Ralph now, is
phenomenal as well. Think and Grow Rich.
There’s a lot of information that you need to keep filling your mind with, and
the top 1% of the country, the people who are top in their field keep trying to
get better, better and better. CANEI, Tony Robbins says the acronym for CANEI is
Constant and Never Ending Improvement. You just have keep working and moving
ahead.
Ralph Zuranski: Well, you know that is so true. A lot of times I sit
down, I wake up in the morning and sit down at my computer and just think, gee,
how many new software programs do I have to learn today?
It’s hard to do it. Sometimes you just don’t feel like doing it. I know that you
probably agree with this, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to pursue new
ideas. What do you think about that?
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Robert Channing: I agree. I would say there is another way to look at it. I get
excited about new ideas. I’m excited, I know we spoke before this interview
about a marketing plan that I’m working on. I’m so excited about it. I think
that if you work up that fire in your belly and the excitement about it, it is
challenging. You get a little afraid sometimes.
But once you get into it and you see it starting to work and the fruit comes off
the trees that you planted, that’s what makes me move. That gives me juice,
Ralph. It makes me feel like what I’m doing is working.
But also, Ralph, I study the top people in their industry. If I know someone in
marketing, if I have to learn marketing, I will go and find the best marketing
people in the world. I’ll call them up and go to their conferences, just like
you do, Ralph. That’s what we are doing right now on the phone.
If I need to know something in the medical industry, well, you just told me
today a few doctors that could help me out with some blood pressure problems
that I have. So I’m going to go and search them, and track them down, the top
1%.
So always strive to find the answers from the top in their field. You don’t want
to learn from someone that’s just starting out, although you can learn by their
mistakes. You want to take that learning curve and cut it in half, if not more
and learn from the top people that have been studying all their life. Would you
agree?
Ralph Zuranski: I totally agree. I know that you have done a lot of
different things in your life. A lot of the time it’s very uncomfortable to
pursue your dreams because of people in your peer group, your life and even in
your family that don’t want you to change.
They don’t want you to make transformational decisions in your life that may
leave them behind. Do you think it’s important to realize that you are going to
be uncomfortable a lot when you are making quantum leaps in your growth in every
area of your life?
Robert Channing: Oh, sure, Ralph. I remember when I was getting out of high
school, my father told me, “Why do you want to make a career out of this? Go out
and get a real job!” I understand that he came from a narrow minded search,
because that’s how he was brought up. He was brought up to go to work, work
hard, come home and feed his family and provide.
I thought to myself, I was working, in the summertime I worked at a drapery
company in Newport called Reynolds Draperies. They are still there. They service
all the east coast for stage and scenery curtains.
I was working there. I probably earned $150 a week and I probably worked 50
hours. I would go out and do a show and earn $150 for a 45 minute show and I
would say to myself, “Why would I work 50 hours a week if I could just do a
show?”
That was my dream, that was what juiced me too was saying, “This is my passion.
This is my dream.” No matter what, if anybody said stop to me, it gave me more
juice to keep moving. I’m the type of person if someone says you can’t do it, I
want to do it even more. I love it, I like when people say it to me.
I guess it was the way I was brought up. My mother was always supportive, my
father was always trying, he was a supporter, but he tore me down a little bit,
and I think that was a good thing. That’s what created who I am today.
So, you are going to have times that people knock you down. You are going to
have it during the day and during the nighttime. You are going to have it when
you are on the road, you are tired, you are exhausted, and you don’t want it to
happen.
At that point, you have to look at yourself and say, you know what, here are my
goals, and read them every day. Write them down. Put them in front of you, put
them on the mirror.
Read them before you go to bed, when you wake up in the morning. At lunchtime,
when you are just relaxing, you are going to feed your subconscious mind the
direction you want to go in.
It’s going to move you. Ralph, you and I spoke before about the four principles
that you went over, how the mind works. The mind works on what you concentrate
the most on. You will get that in your life. So if you can plant positive seeds
and positive emotions, you will reap those.
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Ralph Zuranski: Everybody has doubts and fears. It seems that’s an inevitable
part of life. How do you overcome your doubts and fears?
Robert Channing: Also I have a confident in my wife. I ask her some things and
she is my psychiatrist/psychologist sometimes. I have friends like you. I have
mentors, peers and coaches. Also, I go inside myself, because education means
you learn from the outside, but you bring it in. You translate it and it comes
out of yourself as a process.
So, by learning to be with myself, to pray, to ask God to take my concerns, my
heartaches, my wishes and give them to Him, that’s the release process that you
have to do. It comes back to you, just pray and have faith. Does that make
sense?
Ralph Zuranski: That does make sense. I think probably one of the hardest
things in the world to do is forgive those that upset, offend and oppose you.
How important do you think that forgiveness is?
Robert Channing: Very, very important. That was my second challenge. You asked
me before, what was one of my toughest challenges? Well, the company Power
Performers, I hired a few people to help me out, top sales people in my industry
and I hired consultants to come in and train them in my office.
I respected them. They asked me to be in their weddings, they asked me to be
part of their families, and I have generously given to them. Over given. I would
buy them lunch every week, almost three or four times a week.
I would take them on trips, give them bonuses, and buy them color televisions
because they did so well. What they loved to do was selling entertainment and
speaking to celebrities, and I gave them bonuses them because we would have
monthly goals, weekly goals, yearly goals, they would hit all the goals.
After three years, they decided to, two of them, I won’t mention their names
because I don’t want this to get out, but two of them actually stole all my
business. They stole my company and downloaded all my information. They put up a
website while they were working for me.
They came in on a Friday afternoon and both gave me their resignation and said,
“Bob, we loved working here. Thank you so much for the opportunity. It was the
best job that we have ever had but we are going to go work for my father in
another industry.”
This other gentleman who was a friend of his left as well. They gave me this big
story Ralph. I found out a week later from one of my clients who said, “Did you
know, Robert that they have their own website and they are in competition with
you?”
At that point I had a 24 page employment agreement that every word in the
agreement, Ralph, they went against and they just totally raped and pillaged my
company. I was depressed. I was down because these were friends of mine that I
lived with for three, three and a half years, every day.
We laughed, we cried. We went through 9/11 together. Different things, one
gentleman had eye problems; I went to the hospital to see him. Two weeks before
this, the other gentleman was having a baby and I brought gifts to them. You can
tell, it hurts me right now talking about it, but that was about a year, a year
and a half ago.
Since then, Ralph, my business has tripled. I’ve hired more people, and I’ve
learned that these people were planning and plotting against me and I had that
faith. I believed in them. I gave. I was blind.
What I learned form that was yes, give, but to leave my eyes open a little bit,
to protect myself. Like I said before, when people say I can do something that’s
what inspired me to motivate this business, to move higher and further.
I’ve gone further, and it’s going to go further. I’m going to build this so that
people who work for me can benefit from the fruits of my labor. I hope that
answers that question.
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Ralph Zuranski: Did you actually forgive those people for what they did to you?
Robert Channing: I have forgiven them. It’s a challenge, because from day to day
I’m in competition with them. Although we are in a lawsuit because my attorneys,
friends and mentors said you can forgive them but it’s like, for example, Ralph,
if you had a child, or if my child, God forbid, got hit by a drunk driver and
was killed, I could forgive the drunk driver.
It would be hard but you have to serve due diligence and justice, so they
wouldn’t do it again. That’s the reason for the lawsuit. That’s to hopefully
stop them or make them feel…
Ralph Zuranski: What they did was wrong.
Robert Channing: Exactly.
Ralph Zuranski: There are consequences for actions. You always need to
stand for the right thing. If people promise and say they are going to do
something, they need to be held accountable and you can forgive them for the
offenses. But still, they are consequences for actions that don’t have
integrity, that’s for sure.
Too many people that should be held accountable are not. I respect that you are
doing that, because people that do that, if they continue to do it and nobody
calls them to accounting, they just continue on and on. They do it to more and
more people, that’s what I’ve found.
Too many people, once they get screwed by somebody they don’t say anything and
people that they know wind up getting screwed by that same person. It’s hard to
tell the truth about people that aren’t doing their jobs with integrity and
honesty which is what the Heroes program is all about.
It’s to show people just from asking hard questions what type of attitude and
what type of mind process the people that I recognize as heroes actually have.
The neat thing about those heroes is a lot of them experience service to others
as a source of joy. Do you experience that also?
Robert Channing: I do, I do. Let me just go back to that last question for a
moment about forgiveness, and here’s what I have learned. By forgiving,
everybody has their own sins that they have committed, if you want to call it
that, or the mistakes that they have made that they need to be forgiven for.
So what you forgive, you can’t expect to be forgiven for some of your things
that you have done if you can’t forgive the people who have sinned against you.
It’s a double edged sword.
By forgiving, you do two things. You help yourself by forgiving them and you
help them, because they need to be forgiven too. You have to forgive yourself
for things that you have done. What was the question, again, Ralph? I apologize.
Ralph Zuranski: That’s okay. How do you experience service to others as a
source of joy?
Robert Channing: Oh yes, there’s nothing more than going in and for me, if I can
bring it back to my ESP mind reading show, I go in and read people’s minds. I
make them laugh, I’m a comedian. One thing that I do is I always surprise my
clients with doing more.
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When they see my program, my ESP Robert Channing show, motivational talk, I will
deliver to them an experience that they will never forget. How I do that, here’s
one of the things that I do, Ralph. I’m the only one in the world that does
this. I’m known as the world’s foremost mind reader and motivator.
I will mail you a prediction at your event of what three people, including
yourself, will be wearing the night of the show. I will mail it out a month in
advance; you give me the names that are going to be at your key event. This is
the climax of the whole show.
I’ll mail it out; you will hold it in a sealed prediction. I’ll never touch it
again. At the end of my show, I’ll say, “Ralph, do you have the envelope that I
mailed you a month ago?” “Yes, I do. Robert, I have it right here.”
You are 100 feet away from me. “Ralph, would you stand up a few minutes? Would
you hold the envelope up? Ralph, have we pre-arranged anything?” You are going
to say no.
Because I give $100,000 away to anybody in the audience who proves that I used
stooges, meaning that I planted people from the audience to help me out. I don’t
do that. I’ll say, “Ralph, just to prove that, I want more people to randomly
stand up in the audience. They are going to randomly stand up, doesn’t matter
who they are, four people.”
I’ll also say I also predicted in an envelope what these four people are going
to create in their minds as a dream vacation. It’s a lot of fun. It’s a show.
It’s entertainment. I’ll say, “Sir, if you were to go anywhere in the world on a
dream vacation, where would you like to go?” That person might say Hawaii, or
Bermuda, or Tahiti. Whatever it is, I’ll say thank you.
The next person, I’ll say, “Young lady, if you were to go with a special person,
give me the name of the person.” They can make a name up, or they can say their
husband, wife, or boyfriend. They’ll say John. “Okay, John, terrific!”
Next person, day month and year. “When would you like to go?” “March 28, 2098.”
“Fantastic.” “Young lady, how much money would you like to spend? You like to
spend money, I can tell.” They will laugh a little bit. She’ll say, “$10
million?” I’ll say, “Make it something really cool up. They will say
$10,000,428.67. “Terrific. Ralph, would you open that prediction?”
You open it up and it will say, “Hi, this is Robert Channing. I’m sitting in my
office in Hartford, New York in July 21 writing this prediction for Ralph. The
conference is coming up in January of 2006. I predict the following to be true.
Four people will create a dream vacation. Given this chance, they will select
the following.”
And you are reading this, I’ve never touched it. It’s live on the spot. It will
say, first person will say Tahiti. The second person is going with John. The day
month and year is March 28, 2098 and will cost $10,000,437.67. Whatever they
said, people just drop their drawers, jaws. Not their drawers, their jaws!
You’ve experienced it at the conference.
Ralph Zuranski: It was incredible. I almost dropped my drawers there.
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Robert Channing: And on the back of that, I’d say Ralph, turn the piece of paper
over and I predicted what those three names that you have given me, maybe the
VIP of the conference, or the medium that I am performing for a corporation or
association. They will say, “Jane Reynolds will be wearing a red blouse with
polka dots and she will have on gold shoes with a gold ring.”
Whatever it is, I get right to the details. If I don’t get that prediction
correct, down to the color of the sock or stripe in the shirt, I give my whole
fee to them, my whole paycheck, which is substantial.
Ralph Zuranski: It’s amazing; I don’t know how you do it. I was impressed
when you bent that spoon just by running your finger over the top of it. I
thought, oh my God; don’t let him near my mother’s silverware.
Robert Channing: That’s funny.
Ralph Zuranski: That is astounding. I’ve never been more impressed with a
presentation than your presentation that I saw at Joe’s. It was one of the
highlights of my life of being at your presentation. It was incredible and
working with you at Joe’s, I ran the computers and photos.
Robert Channing: You did a phenomenal job Ralph; and we became instant friends.
Ralph Zuranski: We did, it was just astounding, and I’ve never been more
impressed with any live entertainment that I’ve ever seen. It was just
incredible. I know that you maintain an incredible sense of humor, especially in
the face of serious problems. How important do you think humor is in your life?
Robert Channing: I think it’s very, very important. Humor actually is the proven
fact, I think you know this. When you laugh, it actually creates endorphins in
your brain that stimulate your mind to be happier. When we laugh, you have to
laugh.
I remember being depressed when these people left me. I popped a DVD in, Jeff
Foxworthy and a couple of other funny comedians. I just laughed and laughed, it
brought me up. It just brings your emotional state up. If you ever get a
depressed mood, just put a smile on your face if you can, those endorphins will
make you in a better mood.
Try to get out, relax, laugh with your friends, it just brings that blood
pressure down, brings the reality of life back to you. Look around you, go out
in the woods, go out in a stream, go out with your family, your dog or if you
have a cat.
Be with that person, just look up in the sky and say do you know what? Life’s
not that bad, there are people in this world that are dying, that are going
without food and my little problem is nothing. It feels like a lot, but it
really isn’t.
Ralph Zuranski: That’s so true. Who are the heroes in your life?
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Robert Channing: The heroes in my life, one that comes to my mind is Reverend
Russell Little. He is a gentleman that taught me how to do magic and a little
ESP and mind reading when I was a child. I used to walk to school in the morning
and pass his house.
He used to use magic in his sermons to get attention, to make people pay
attention to the Word of God. He used to make his thumb disappear. He would put
sugar in his hand and make it disappear as I was on my way to school.
He’s the one that I had to write a report about, that my teacher gave me in
third grade. What did I want to be when I grew up? I didn’t know. I want to be a
magician. I went and I did some research, I went right to his house and said...
That’s the key, Ralph, anybody that wants to know what they are doing, don’t be
afraid to ask for advice, because people will give it to you. Ask and you shall
receive information that you are looking for. Remember to ask.
So that’s what happened, I asked, and he brought me up to this room upstairs, I
remember to this day, I walked into his house, up the stairs, and this whole
room filled with magic props, magic cool stuff, and my eyes, it was just
unbelievable.
He was a mentor of mine. He was someone that I respected. He put a foot in the
door when I was leaving his house. Robert, he said, “See my foot?” He opened his
door and put his foot in the door and said, “What I just did for you, I put your
foot in that door, now it’s your job to open it for yourself.”
From that point forward, I’ve been opening it for the rest of my life. It’s
brought me to meet spectacular people. It has brought me all over the world to
see different people and different cultures. To do what I wanted to do, perform,
entertain, to make a great living performing, and have a great speaker’s bureau
and entertainment agency.
The reason that I opened that was I had my second child; I was on the road a
lot. I told my wife I need to make some more money not being on the road so I
can spend some time eating popcorn with you at home and still make some money.
That’s what I did, I opened a bureau and I book people and at night, when I’m on
the road and not at home, I’m still making a decent living and booking people
that I respect and admire.
Ralph Zuranski: Who do you feel are the real heroes in society today that
aren’t getting the recognition they deserve?
Robert Channing: The mothers, the teachers. You and I were speaking before that
in a school, the teachers are phenomenal. They are teaching how to have a job,
and to go in the world and work for somebody else.
But I think the Heroes program that you are working on now is going to bring a
different dimension, a different philosophy to the schools and to kids that
don’t work for somebody else.
Although it’s a great opportunity, try to work for yourself and try to grow
yourself to rely on yourself. For example, you can rent a lifestyle, meaning you
can have a job at IBM making $100,000 a year, have a beautiful home, a BMW, a
car, two children and all of a sudden BMW lays you off, I mean, IBM lays you
off.
Who are you working for? Now you are scraping, trying to find a job, minimum
wage, a lot less than you made. But when you work for yourself, you have
investments; you invest in yourself in your mind, and your opportunities.
Meaning real estate, your business meaning when you go out and work, you are
being compensated for your own mind, not by working for somebody else to make
them a millionaire. Work for yourself to make yourself get ahead in this life.
Does that make sense?
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Ralph Zuranski: Boy, that’s good advice, that’s what all the other
heroes have said. It’s so important to become an entrepreneur and be the captain
of your own ship and direct it to where you want to go. Just working for other
people, you never will be able to attain the dreams that you have, maybe
retiring down in Florida when you get to be 65.
And you forget all the things that you could have done that you wanted to do
that you should have done. It’s the difference between having a dream and having
a life.
Robert Channing: I agree. Robert Kiyosaki in Rich Dad, Poor Dad, I learned this
from him by reading his books. Books unlock the secrets of the universe, Ralph,
and I know you know this. I teach my children this.
My daughter, I ask her all the time, “Gabrielle, tell your teacher what we
talked about!” She says to the teacher all the time, “Books unlock the secrets
to the universe.”
They really do, the books, they have studied different subjects. If I have an
ailment, I’m not going to go to school to be a doctor to find out how to fix my
own ailment. I’m going to go to the top surgeon or top doctor in the world and
I’m going to get fixed.
Robert Kiyosaki has studied how to become a successful person by investing in
real estate, and investing in yourself.
Here’s the point I wanted to bring across. Even if you have job and you are in
the job right now, and you are sitting and working for somebody else, that’s
okay. You can be wealthy, and have a comfortable lifestyle.
I think it’s a great lifestyle sometimes Ralph, because my friends are teachers
and they make a comfortable living. They have summers off. But also what you
want to do with your time off. When you go to work, that’s your time to work but
that’s your living.
But when you come home, if you are going to work every day, that’s when you make
your life. That’s why Robert Kiyosaki says, that’s when you go out and you find
real estate, or you find your business that you can open. You can have the best
of both worlds.
I’m not putting down going to work for somebody else because 95% of the people
in this country do that. The top 10% of people, entrepreneurs, they are doing
for themselves and providing these wonderful experiences and jobs for people.
But you can do both, that’s what I’m saying. I’m not putting them down, I’m
giving the opportunity to open your mind that if you work for somebody else on
your off time, when you go home instead of watching television or doing
something not productive, go and look at a property. Invest in a property,
invest in real estate. Study commodities; study how to be a marketing person for
internet products. So that’s my point with that.
Ralph Zuranski: Why are heroes so important in the lives of young people?
Robert Channing: Well, first of all, a hero, people look up to different heroes
nowadays. There are some bad examples of heroes meaning there are some sports
celebrities and stars that are smoking cigarettes and doing drugs and
anti-depressants, things along this line.
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I remember watching Tom Cruise, a few weeks ago being interviewed by Matt Lauer
on the Today show, talking about psychiatry and how he thought it was a pseudo
science and all this. I believe a little bit of that, but I believe heroes are
people that have done it before you that are successful.
You want to model success and duplicate results. That’s the reason you have
heroes in your life. You see something that they are doing that you would love
to emulate, that’s a positive in your life that you know if you could attain,
you would be happy.
How you do that is just model what they are doing. You become that much
successful in your learning curve. You will get there that much faster. Does
that make sense?
Ralph Zuranski: It does. The next question is, how does it feel to be
recognized as a hero? I know a lot of the people that I have interviewed don’t
consider themselves heroes. But I think it’s important to accept the good that
you are doing and the benefits that you have in the lives of others and not be
ashamed to be recognized for the good things that you do. How does it feel to be
recognized as a hero?
Robert Channing: I’m very flattered, first of all. It’s flattering to even be
considered being a hero. The place I always thought I was a hero was in raising
my family. I never thought I was a hero in anything else, other than I love
doing what I do.
I’m passionate about what I do, and I try, whoever I come in contact with is
bring and build them up. So if that’s being a hero, thank you for knighting me a
hero, Ralph.
Ralph Zuranski: Well, how are you making the world a better place?
Robert Channing: Making the world a better place, I’m providing my experience of
how to get into the industry. For example, when I book somebody in my company,
or my sales reps book somebody, we are doing a service to our client by giving
them something they want.
We are doing a service to the speaker, because all we have to do is call the
speaker and the speaker picks up the phone and says, “Hello.” We say, “Hi, we
have a date for you!” So it makes their life easier, it makes my life easier,
and our client is happy when they experience a stellar performance.
Also the people that work in my office, I try to give them an opportunity to
improve themselves with goals. I also try to build people, not just teach them
how to make money but build them. If you can teach them to fish, they will do
that much better in the future.
You can show them how to do something, but if you don’t teach them and implement
the information in their minds and take consistent action with that information,
they are not going to be able to do it on their own.
I guess what I’m saying is that I provide an atmosphere to the people in my life
to benefit from what I can do in my own experience. I hope I made sense with
that, I tried to.
Ralph Zuranski: You did. Do you have any good solutions for the problems facing
society today, especially racism, child and spousal abuse and violence among
young people?
Robert Channing: That’s a tough question, Ralph! Because there are so many
stereotypes, there is so much racism still. To solve that, the solution would be
to do what you are doing right now. To give the young kids in this world
mentors, heroes to emulate themselves by.
Let them know that if anything they are going through now, there are people in
the past that have gone through things as bad, if not worse and they have made
themselves through it. They have grown stronger and more successful in their
lives because of that persecution in their life.
Ralph Zuranski: If you had three wishes for your life in the world that
would instantly come true, what would they be?
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Robert Channing: Three wishes. One would be to the drug industry, first of all,
not to have so many drugs to fix people but to have holistic solutions and the
world to be a better place. This is going out on a limb here, our government,
whether people want to believe it or not is one of the biggest mafias in the
world.
We control the world but we do it for a reason because we have to protect
ourselves. But I would love to have the world be a utopia like John Lennon used
to sing about, that would be my wish to have a utopia. Almost like heaven.
The second wish would be that the young people in this world could be educated
and know how to model success when they are younger.
And the teachers that are teaching them will learn how to teach them how to
manage their life, not so much as how to do the sciences and mathematics but how
to manage their life with the relationship with themselves their family,
financially, emotionally. I think they don’t teach that in school now, Ralph.
Ralph Zuranski: I agree. What do you think about the "In Search of
Heroes" program and its impact on youth, parents and business people?
Robert Channing: I think everybody in the world should benefit from this and
will benefit from it. I think the word has to get out. I think I mentioned to
you before that I want to do something with you Ralph, with my Power Performers
and I’m going to promote "In Search Of Heroes" in everything that I do. That’s
one of my life goals.
Ralph Zuranski: What are the things that parents can do that will help
their children realize that they too can be heroes and make a positive impact on
the lives of others?
Robert Channing: Giving, learn that it is better to give than receive. Don’t you
feel better, I feel better, anyway. I know that a lot of people love to get
gifts. I love to get gifts but it’s always hard for me when someone gives me a
gift to say “thank you.”
I would not feel like I deserved it, I don’t know why, something in my psyche
but I have learned to say thank you and to appreciate it. By them giving them a
gift, you are giving them a gift. So be giving, you will receive 100 fold.
Teach your children to give, to help, to praise and to praise them. Just
something that I learned by some statistics, I think there is a lot of validity
here, is that if you are a parent and you have a daughter, you as the male
person will influence your daughter’s life, her emotions and her self confidence
more so than the mother will.
And it’s true of the opposite sex, meaning the mother will dominate and
influence the child’s psyche because it’s the opposite sex. If you learn this
when you are growing up, if you have children, to also compliment, to support,
to bring them up, not in a false way. Of course you have to correct them, but in
a delicate way. Does that make sense?
Ralph Zuranski: Yes, that really does. Robert, I just really appreciate
your time. I know how incredibly busy you are. I was just so impressed with your
presentation and just the humor. It still blows my mind on how you can read
people’s minds. I don’t know how you do that, but it is incredibly awesome.
I just really encourage you to do the Power Performers and do interviews on
those guys to just spread the knowledge that they have. Excellence is such a
fine thing, it’s such a great role model for young people, for those that are
giving service above self, that are providing quality and integrity in the
fields they are in.
That’s what young people need to know, they need to find out how these people
that are attaining the level of success they want to attain, and listen to the
people that they become. I’m sure that you would agree with this, you have to
become a person that is worthy of incredible wealth and fame before it ever
shows up, or it will completely go down the drain.
Just like a lot of people feared success, once it arrived they completely dumped
it down the drain by their actions. You’ve had a lot of impact with very famous
people. What do you think about that idea?
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