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Ralph Zuranski: Len, did you find it was valuable to invest time in daydreaming about what your life would eventually be like when you attained your dream and achieved your goals?

Len Thurmond: I’m really not sure if daydreaming helps or hurts. You can really get lost in your dreams.

Len Thurmond: I think you have to have a clear vision of the direction you want to go in, and I think you have to have a clear vision of what will make you happy. That’s really all that’s important.

Len Thurmond: Dreaming about it, daydreaming about it, thinking about it, obsessing about it; I’m not sure that that doesn’t just hurt rather than help. I think you really need to have a strategy. You have to have a road map that you come up with that’s going to get you to the next level.

Len Thurmond: This flies in the face of what so many of my peers say. I think you have to take it one level at a time. I think you have to have a road map to that next level and you have to follow it and you have to go for it. In the back of your mind you’re always going to know where you want to go next and you never can stop.

Len Thurmond: One of the problems about having dreams and goals and so forth is that once you’ve reached those, assuming you do, now what do you do? I think you have to continue; you can’t ever stop.

Len Thurmond: If you can set finite goals, that’s a recipe for saying, “I’m done; I finished it; I did what I wanted; I’m through. Yeah, me!” It doesn’t work that way. People who are successful, people who continue on, the Bill Gates, the Armand Morins of this world are never happy with where they are. There is always more to do.

Len Thurmond: They are very satisfied with what they’ve done, but there’s always more to do. And I think you have to look at life that way regardless of what it’s about; business, family, friends; it doesn’t matter. You can never love anybody enough.

Len Thurmond: To say, “I’m going to love my children until they know they’re loved, until I make sure they know they’re loved,” that’s like saying, “When they figure that out, I’m done.” You can never love anybody too much. You can never work too hard. You can never get to a place where enough is enough.

Len Thurmond: We are here to do everything we can until we die, and I think that’s the way you have to go. As long as you keep that inside and continue to go on, then your life will be full. You’ll always have something to shoot for; you’ll always have something that you’re trying to work towards.

Len Thurmond: If we run out of things to work towards, we die. Think about it. How many people have had loved ones, and their whole life was wrapped around that loved one. What does that mean? That means that it was wrapped around making that person happy. They loved them so much that their entire life meant, “I want you to be happy and I’m going to spend my life making you happy.”

Len Thurmond: It doesn’t end. It never stops. “I will make you happy, forever, and happier and happier and happier,” and that’s their goal in life. When that person dies, they usually die shortly thereafter because they have nothing to live for.

Len Thurmond: I don’t think that you can set goals in that sense. I think your goal needs to be always to go father; to never stop and never reach the end of the road. The end of the road is a death sentence.

Ralph Zuranski: Len, do you feel it’s important to make positive statements about your future and your goals?

Len Thurmond: I feel that it’s important to believe in yourself, and the only way you can believe in yourself is to be positive about where you want to go and how you’re going to get there. Positive statements? I think too many people take that out of context and feel that, “If I tell my friend I’m going to quit smoking, that means I’ll quit because I’ll be shamed into doing so.”

Len Thurmond: That just means that when they don’t, they’re going to feel badly about themselves.

Len Thurmond: What is a positive statement? A positive statement is, “I believe in myself.” If you believe in yourself, then all things are possible. Then it really comes down to what do you want to do? And you will do whatever you want to do if you believe you can.

Len Thurmond: Positive statements in a sense that it helps you keep track of knowing you can get there, that helps you keep track of believing in yourself, yes. But positive statements in the sense of speak it and it will happen, I don’t believe in that. I think that’s cooked up by the gurus out there who are selling the self-help books that don’t work.

Len Thurmond: I think you have to believe in yourself, period. And if you believe it, it will happen, whatever it takes to get there.
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