"Part 3: Transcript of Len Thurmond's In Search Of Heroes Interview" by Ralph Zuranski
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Ralph Zuranski: That’s a great answer. And to follow up with that, what’s your perspective on goodness, ethics, and morality? Do you think that it’s important for people to be good, have good ethics, and have moral behavior?
Len Thurmond: I think that all comes back to what I just said a minute ago that “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Goodness is being good, which means not hurting people. Ethics means following your inner self, knowing when you’re hurting somebody and when you’re not, or whether something that you’re about to do is going to hurt somebody and not doing it.
Len Thurmond: It’s really just a matter of trying to help each other and loving each other, and not trying to use each other. I think that’s where ethics and morality comes in. When you start trying to use other people for your gains, whatever those are, then you’re getting into a very grey area and it can turn black really easily.
Len Thurmond: You need to do what you can for yourself in your own way without having to affect other people unless you’re going to affect them positively. I think trying to help other people will always further your cause. I honestly believe you can help yourself better by working with other people and trying to help them better themselves.
Ralph Zuranski: Len, you know a lot of people in their lives have a higher power, some supernatural being that they’re involved with or some God consciousness. What do you think is the place of prayer in a person’s life? What place does it have in yours?
Len Thurmond: That’s a sticky, almost sore, subject with me. I mentioned a few minutes ago that I believe in a higher consciousness, a total consciousness that we’re all part of the one, part of the whole. And I truly believe that.
Len Thurmond: In any sense of the word, that would have to mean God. So, am I religious? Am I spiritual? Yes, absolutely. I totally believe that only an idiot could think that there’s not a higher consciousness of some kind. How did we get here? Why are we here? There has to be a reason. To deny that is to say that there is no reason for us to be here. That’s like saying, “I’m dead.” There has to be.
Len Thurmond: As far as where do you pray? As I said, this is a sticky subject and this is probably going to upset some people, but I have a real problem with most organized religions because I believe that most organized religions are people who don’t have the faith to believe on their own and are gathering together so they can convince each other that they’re right.
Len Thurmond: I personally go to church on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I love churches. I think they’re beautiful buildings and they do bring me closer to God, but I go there when there are not other people there because I don’t need or even want other people telling me what to believe.
Len Thurmond: The main place that I pray is in nature. I’ve always loved the mountains, and I think the reason I’ve always loved the mountains is because it’s God’s greatest creation and you just feel so close to the infinite when you’re there.
Len Thurmond: You can sit in the middle of a field in a mountain pasture surrounded by trees and snow-capped peaks and eagles flying over and know what God really is and know what spirituality really is and know what life is really all about.
Len Thurmond: Whenever I have a problem or I feel badly, that’s where I retreat to. It’s almost always by myself. It’s the only way that I can spiritually connect with what’s there.
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To quote Len..."If just one person can be helped to believe that they too can pull themselves up by the bootstraps, and become more than they are today, then this interview will be well worth the time.
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