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"Part 2: Transcript of Len Thurmond's In Search Of Heroes Interview" by Ralph Zuranski

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Ralph Zuranski: This is kind of a strange question, Len, but do you follow your hunches and intuition? I know women are usually more intuitive and follow their hunches more because it’s a part of the brain hemisphere, the right brain that most men don’t use. What do you think about that? Do you use your intuition and follow your hunches?

Len Thurmond: That’s a funny question. Actually, as a man we don’t call it intuition. We call it our “gut feeling.”

Len Thurmond: But, yes, I always follow my gut feeling and, if I don’t, I pay for it. Inevitably, throughout my entire life I always seem to know what to do, what’s right, what’s wrong, when to do it, why, where, everything intuitively. Through my gut, I mean, I can feel it.

Len Thurmond: I guess the gut feeling really comes in when you don’t follow what you think is right or when you don’t follow that intuition which, I guess, is what it really is. But if you don’t follow it your guts just get tied in knots. You know that you’re doing the wrong thing.

Len Thurmond: So many times through my life, and I’ve seen it in other people too, they don’t follow what they feel they should have done and, inevitably, it turns out to be wrong and it comes back to bite them in the butt.

Len Thurmond: My wife, whenever we’re trying to make a decision, the first thing she’ll ask me is, “What does your gut say?” and then she keeps me on track forcing me to listen to my inner self. I believe that there’s an infinite consciousness out there that we’re all part of God. We’re all part of one infinite consciousness, one thing, and if you open yourself up to the answers they will come. They’re all there waiting to flood in.

Len Thurmond: But when you deny your intuition, that’s shutting that door; that’s just slamming it shut. The truth can’t get in, and if the truth can’t get in you’ve got a 50/50 chance of going in the right direction.

Len Thurmond: I can’t say that I always do, but I try to always listen to what my inner self is trying to tell me.

Ralph Zuranski: Philosophies guide people’s lives. What specific philosophy or philosophies guide your life?

Len Thurmond: Philosophies; that’s a tough one. I don’t think it’s so much philosophies as it is a way of life. I believe that everything you do, good or bad, comes back to you tenfold. And I think if you spend your days trying to do good in one way or another, and that doesn’t always mean trying to help people or running around handing out stuff at soup kitchens, but if you try to do good and not bad and help as many people as you can, eventually somewhere, somehow that will come back to you and it will come back to you tenfold.

Len Thurmond: It’s happened to me so many times in my life, and it’s also happened to me when I’ve done some things that were completely selfish which I would consider bad things, and they come back to bite me too.

Len Thurmond: I think you have to remember that nothing is free in life. If you do a good deed or if you try to help somebody and you do help somebody, it will come back to you. Someone else will be there when you need it. It’s the law of reciprocity which applies in all things and works both ways.

Len Thurmond: I guess, if there’s a philosophy that I follow, that would have to be it. I do a lot of coaching and people pay me a lot of money to coach them, but I also almost always have several people that I do for free. I just feel that they need the help; they ask for it; I give it to them.

Len Thurmond: Almost without question, in one way or another, it comes back to me. Many times they become successful and they’ll come back and pay me out of the blue. I never asked for money. Or they’ll turn me onto someone else, or someone else will want to do a business deal with me because they mentioned how much they learned or whatever. It always comes back to you, always.

Len Thurmond: If everybody followed that golden rule, that “do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” I mean, that’s one of those silly things we were taught when we were kids. But it’s just so true. It does come back to you..

Len Thurmond: That’s not to say that bad things won’t happen, but I think overall the good will outweigh the bad if you are doing more good than you are bad.

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