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Part 21: Transcript of Paulie's Sabol's In Search Of Heroes Interview" by Ralph Zuranski

Ralph Zuranski: Well, that’s a great way to provide opportunities for everybody no matter where they’re at, that they know they too can do good things not only for themselves and achieve their dreams, but also help society at the same time.

Paulie, do you have any good solutions to the problems facing society, especially racism, child and spousal abuse, and also discrimination against people that have different perspectives on life?

Paulie Sabol: Good solution is such an interesting question because if good means practical, easy, simple, ready to implement immediately, I’m not sure that I do. I think I am lacking in that. I’ve shared with you before that from time to time when I see the scope of the problems I get discouraged and uncertain.

I will tell you that I absolutely believe that fundamental abundance is the solution to most all of those problems. If you look at things like racism, what a lot of people don’t know is that racism has often been used in history, for example, to thwart the labor movement. While racism will be incited as the way to say, “Look, those people over there, those different people, are coming over here to take your good jobs.”

Sexism has been used in the same way to thwart the labor movement. There is a great movie out right now about a woman coal miner in Colorado and how she had to break down the all boys network, and even the labor unions were being played against her, and the fears of difference were made.

We don’t even need a labor movement if we have fundamental abundance. The labor movement is designed to protect laborers from management. But if there is fundamental abundance, we don’t even need that, much less with management and what I like to call small capital, not because they don’t really fall into the category of big capital, but because they are small minded.

What small capital tries to use when they use the race card, when they use the violence, and this isn’t suggested to be an excuse Ralph, but very often people would have a behavior pattern that might include violence, fall into that behavior pattern because of financial struggle.

So fundamental abundance would reduce the number of triggers. Now they still want to work on the inner work, but fundamental abundance would decrease the incidents. It would put somebody in a resourceful position.

So that is my solution – help me do it.

Ralph Zuranski: If you had three wishes for your life in the world that would eventually come true, what would they be?

Paulie Sabol: Cool question. My first wish would be for a complete end of parochial and provincial paternalism, and to have it all replaced by a sex positive, body positive, diverse open and full panoply of the human expression. In other words, I would have the completion of the civil rights movement and the joyous expression of it for everyone.

Ralph Zuranski: Basically you’d like to have everybody accepted for who they are?

Paulie Sabol: That’s right. We don’t need to be burning witches. Second, I would wish for a totally healed globe and environment without wars of aggression and unlawful wars against sovereign nations. I wish we could just replace all those government tribalism with an anarcho village. Go right into true communities being autonomous and independent. It would be a beautiful thing in my view.

Then of course, in the spirit of fundamental abundance, my third wish would be to wish for three more wishes.

Ralph Zuranski: Unfortunately, you don’t get a chance to have any more wishes. So that’s it for you Paulie. One more question for you. What do you think about the In Search of Heroes program and it’s impact on youth, parents, and business people?

Paulie Sabol: I appreciate it, and I especially appreciate the diversity that it represents, that there is a place at the table for everybody. There is a hero that you can identify with. Even if there is a hero that you don’t fully identify with, you can grow in that identification with heroes that you might not even considered at first.

I know you’ve used the word acceptance a few times, but I think acceptance is a wimpy position. People don’t want to be merely accepted for who they are, they want to be celebrated for who they are. And that is what In Search of Heroes does. It celebrates the unique and consistent communications of success by different people.

Ralph Zuranski: That is probably the major paradigm of the In Search of Heroes program. It is the Help Enthusiastically Responsibly Optimistically Exceptionally Socially and/or Spiritually that stands for what heroes really are. They are the people that step into that moment in time and are self-sacrificing to help somebody else. They do it without any expectations of return.

I think that is what is truly needed in the world today. No matter who you are or what you believe, no matter what your sexual persuasion is, if you step out and help somebody else, at that moment in time, you rise above your own self interest and make a difference in the world and also eternally.

Paulie Sabol: Thank you for the experience Ralph.

Ralph Zuranski: Paulie, thank you for your time and how much you shared with us. I know it will resonate with a lot of people that need that assurance that what they are doing is at the right time and the right place.

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