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Ralph Zuranski: You know, Len, in your life you’ve done a lot of different projects and some have been successful and some have not been. Once you make that decision to go down that trail, how valuable do you think it is to be slow to revise and reverse an important decision?

Len Thurmond: I think it’s imperative to always be open to change. I can’t think of a single success that I’ve ever had that has ever ended up the way it started out.

Len Thurmond: When I have an idea for a new project, whatever it happens to be, it invariably becomes so much more and so different in the end that it would be totally unidentifiable with what I started out with. So I think you need to be open to changes that present themselves.

Len Thurmond: In the course of creation, things are constantly changing. They are constantly in a state of flux where you make one thing, you do one thing, and it creates another problem or it creates another situation. If you look at that situation and you say, “Okay, how can I better what I’ve done already by looking at this situation?” and then take that into account, it’s continually evolving and changing.

Len Thurmond: When you reach the final edition, the final subject of what it is that you’re doing, whether it is a book or writing or a job or whatever you’re doing, even writing a theme paper at school, you have to be open to those changes. Then you will end up with a far better result than you would have if you stick to what it was to begin with.

Len Thurmond: There have been so many software products and ebooks that I’ve done. If I had stuck with my original idea and refused to change, they would never have been successful because it was the end product that made them special.

Len Thurmond: There have been so many times that I have failed to make things done because I wasn’t willing to make that change and so forth. So, yes, it’s absolutely essential that you’re open to change and then, basically, that you go with the flow. Be open to what comes up.

Len Thurmond: My career has been one of being open to what comes up. Not just in my software creation or in my newsletter or anything, but back to the days of construction and I owned an art gallery. All the things that have happened to me, my entire life has been one of being open to what came up.

Len Thurmond: How do you make the jump from being a carpenter to owning an art gallery? It’s because I was open to what happened. I was a closet photographer at first and then it became my passion and I needed a place to sell my stuff, so I ended up with an art gallery. The art gallery led me to the internet because I was trying to publish the works of art online when the internet was in its infancy.

Len Thurmond: One thing has led to another, but if I wasn’t open to those things I’d still be driving nails right now. I was making a good living driving nails, but I had passions that I had to follow and I had to be open to them.

Len Thurmond: Everything happens for a reason, and you need to follow what comes along.

Ralph Zuranski: Boy, Len, that’s really inspirational to follow your passion and just have self confidence. I know that the world and just the educational system seeks to destroy your self confidence and destroy your ability to pursue your dreams and even believe that you can.

It’s a horrible thing to be paralyzed by fears and self doubts. How do you overcome fears and self doubts? It’s something that everybody deals with on a daily basis.

Len Thurmond: I don’t allow fear to rule me; I face my fears head on. I’ve been doing it as long as I can remember. The more scared I am the more apt I am to jump in the face of that fear. Somehow, somewhere along the line, and I honestly don’t know where it came from but I know it to be true, I realized and was taught that the only way to overcome your fears is to face them.

Len Thurmond: Invariably, the only thing there is to fear is fear itself. It’s an old saying, but it is very, very true. How many times have we all been afraid of whatever just to be suddenly forced into a situation where we didn’t have any choice but to face it, and then realize, “What the hell was I so afraid of?”

Len Thurmond: It happens all the time. When I was a kid I was diagnosed with bone cancer when I was about six years old, and it basically just went away on its own. Nobody knows what it was or what happened, but they put me in the hospital, they did all these surgeries on me, and they were constantly sticking me with needles to the point where my father at one point grabbed the doctor and literally threw him into the hall and said, “Leave my son alone!”

Len Thurmond: To this day I’m afraid of needles. I have a fear of needles because of that, but it doesn’t keep me from going to the doctor. And when they tell me I get a shot, I don’t run out the door, you know? You face your fears and every time it’s like, “Oh, that wasn’t so bad,” regardless of what it is.

Len Thurmond: I think it comes back to what I said a little while ago. Most of us are afraid of failure more than anything else. In most cases the fears that we have are a fear of not being able to perform whatever it is we feel we should perform in any given situation.

Len Thurmond: You have to face those fears and just do it anyway, and most of the time you will overcome those fears and it will help build self confidence so that when something else arises you’re not as paralyzed by it. You get to a point where you realize, “Yeah, it scares me; my heart’s beating really fast, but I know I’m going to survive this. And I know tomorrow I’m going to wake up and wonder what I was scared of?”

Len Thurmond: And the next day when I’m faced with something I’m going to be more self confident and less afraid. To answer your question, I think the only way to deal with fear is to face it head on and realize that it’s just the fear itself that we’re afraid of.

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