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Ralph Zuranski: Len, how important is it to have the courage to pursue new ideas. You know, a lot of people just can’t do anything. They are paralyzed by making any changes in their lives. How important is it to have courage?

Len Thurmond: Honestly, Ralph, for me it’s not a matter of courage. It’s a matter of necessity. I don’t know how it is for everyone. I’m a very creative person and I have been all my life. If I’m not creating, which means coming up with ideas and trying them whether they be music or new products or software or writing a book, I’ve got a novel, I mean, regardless, if I’m not creating something I’m miserable.

Len Thurmond: But that’s just me. I don’t think it takes courage to try something new or to create something. I think people who don’t feel they have the courage to do it are really afraid of failure. It’s not fear of the unknown; it’s not fear of changing; it’s not fear of trying something new. It’s fear of failure.

Len Thurmond: If they don’t make it, then what? If you have a great idea and you need to quit your job to do it, it’s not a fear of what will happen if I create this thing or if I go down that road. It’s a fear of what if I fail and I don’t have my job?

Len Thurmond: I think that all really comes back to believing in yourself again. If you believe that you can do it, you can do it. What the mind can conceive, the body can do. That’s just the way it is. It is a proven fact over the millennium. You must truly believe, and that means believing down to your toenails, not telling yourself, “I can do it! Yelp, yelp, yelp!” That’s the way it works.

Len Thurmond: But if you truly believe in your soul that you can do something, then there’s no question. Then it takes, I don’t know if courage is the word, but it would take more courage not to do it than it would to do it because how could you live with yourself if you didn’t? I couldn’t. I absolutely couldn’t.

Len Thurmond: If I have an idea that I feel is something I need to do and I don’t do it, then for the rest of my life I’ll wonder why. I think you just have to believe in yourself.

Len Thurmond: Unfortunately, I think we’re brought up not to believe in ourselves. As an American culture especially, I’m not sure that it’s that way worldwide, but in America we’re brought up to work for somebody else, to not think for ourselves, to never believe in yourself, basically, beyond the fact that you can do what you’re told.

Len Thurmond: I think that’s totally wrong, and somehow we’ve got to change that in our children and in society in general, and let everybody believe in themselves. It’s okay to work for someone else, but you’ve got to believe in yourself. You’ve got to know that that’s what you want to do, you know? It’s not because you have to or that you’re not good enough to do anything else. That’s where the fear comes in.

Len Thurmond: Trying something new is essential for everybody at all times. Otherwise your life gets stagnant and then what’s the point? But it’s fear of failure more than anything else, and that can only be overcome by believing in yourself.

Ralph Zuranski: As a creative person, you definitely make a lot of quick decisions. How important and how beneficial is it to make decisions quickly?

Len Thurmond: I’m not really sure that I would categorize it as making decisions quickly. What I would say is that it’s essential to act on things when they come up.

Len Thurmond: It’s been my experience over my entire life that ideas come and go, things happen, but they’re fleeting. And if you don’t act on them right now, they’re gone. I can’t count the number of ideas that have come to me that I didn’t bother to write down or act on or whatever, and they were gone forever.

Len Thurmond: Opportunities and ideas, creativity, creation in general, are things that are floating around in the cosmos. It sounds cryptic and weird, but I can’t think of any other way to put it. And that’s not really the way I look at it, but I can’t really put it into words.

Len Thurmond: They’re there, and they’re like little birds that are just flying around and they’re constantly lighting on your shoulder. And if you don’t grab that bird when it lights and make it your pet, make it your own, then it’s going to fly away and light on somebody else.

Len Thurmond: That’s why so many people have had ideas that they didn’t do anything on, just to find out a month later that somebody else did it instead. It’s not that we’re such geniuses that we’re the ones that thought of it. It’s just that the idea came to us, and if we don’t take that and act on it quickly, and that would be your making decisions quickly, then it will go someplace else and somebody else will.

Len Thurmond: So making decisions quickly; I’m not sure that it’s so much decisions as it is acting on opportunities, and thoughts. It’s knowing yourself. You can have a thought like, “I want to kill somebody,” and that’s not something you obviously something you want to act on real quickly.

Len Thurmond: It’s a difference between believing in yourself and knowing what is a good opportunity and what it is you need to act on and not. Obviously, the bad things you shouldn’t act on. But you need to be open to the positive, and when positive things come to you I think you need to act quickly, or at least decisively if not quickly.

Len Thurmond: It doesn’t mean that you have to create whatever it is immediately, but you do need to start the process or it will go away and become somebody else’s.

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