Part 6: Transcript of Paulie's Sabol's In Search Of Heroes Interview" by Ralph Zuranski
Ralph Zuranski: We know that is so true. It is amazing how many people want to impose their moral beliefs on other people. You have so much catastrophe and so much death dealing and so much war based on what people hold religiously. If they actually looked at what the philosophers that they are following actually say, they would see that loving others is the primary foundation of the teachings they had that they wanted to spread to the world.
It is sad that so many people are so divisive and so willing to just judge others because they don’t believe the way that they do. I see that is probably the most and the greatest divisive factor in humanity today, is just people trying to impose their beliefs on others and wanting to try and change others and realizing that others can only change themselves.
What place does the power of prayer have in your life, Paulie?
Paulie Sabol: I think I’m going to be in the minority of some of your heroes, and that is a very good thing. What it means is that there is room at the top for all of us. I am one who experiences prayer typically as the last refuge of the wicked. As when somebody whose got some results coming in their life because of the habits that they’ve formed, the thoughts that they’ve acted upon, and they’re just not happy with those results, in a last ditch effort, they move to prayer to improve it.
On the other hand, there are some traditions which expand prayer to a broader form of communication with something you believe to be out there, rather than a living contribution to what’s around us. That is what I don’t participate in. But in the cases of where there is a communication with nature, or the communication to the power of knowing, which has historically been called Gnosticism, prayer still plays a small role in my life.
However, and it does, because I do believe in communing with those forces, I do believe in opening myself up to messages and invitations, and other than natural forms of knowing.
When people do say they are going to pray for me, I thank them with a nice smile. I’m happy to have prayers; I’m just not a very big doer of prayers. I want to respond to the question of the power of prayer.
From what those who do use prayer say it does for them, I see them as being plugged into a power. Again, I don’t know the means, and I don’t know the mechanism, but what I do know is that we learn in Physics and higher science. I do have a degree in Physics.
We are all fundamentally connected. There is only ONE sense, and you and I, we’re it. You and the listener is it. We’re all one. So the ability of prayer to bring people to the awareness of that oneness, and plug them into that oneness, I very much believe can occur through those particular rituals.
I just happen to use different ones.
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