Part 2: Transcript of Paulie's Sabol's In Search Of Heroes Interview" by Ralph Zuranski
Ralph Zuranski: That is so true. It is funny how so many people in the world today are not willing to accept people the way that they are and realize that each person is along their own separate path of life that nobody knows what the outcome is or where they will finally end up.
Their basic response is just hate, or avoidance, rather than love. I think most of the heroes that I’ve talked with, have all talked about the idea of loving others no matter what their particular lifestyle is, or no matter what their belief system is, and realizing that all the great spiritual leaders, they all talk about love and accepting people the way that they are, and realizing that it is impossible to change somebody. Everybody has to change themselves.
What is your outcome as far as your life? What would you say in ten words or less is what you want out of life, Paulie?
Paulie Sabol: Before I answer that, I do want to bounce back on one other thing that you said. I really want to reach out and be heard by those one in ten of your youthful heroes, who are themselves are in that questioning phase about their own sexual orientation, and sexual identity.
This point about change that you are making could be misunderstood by some of them. That is you are talking about changing one’s life and changing their habits, and changing their thoughts all into a direction that is aligning themselves in that powerful way with honesty and integrity with regards to their highest values.
I believe, and I certainly would say that I’m not expecting anybody to change, or think it is a good idea to change their sexual orientation or the way in which they are at a core physical nature. All of us can rise up against any physical limitation we have, but your sexual identity isn’t one of those physical limitations, it is one of those celebrations.
With just that point made, I will go ahead and answer your question Ralph.
Ralph Zuranski: The idea is that everybody needs to be accepted where they are at. I think too many people hold a particular perspective that everybody has to conform to what they believe is right, and what their perspective of life is.
I found in my own life that is one of the most devastating things that people can do is to try to force others to believe like they do, and it is basically unfair. No matter where anybody is, no matter what they believe, no matter what their particular sexual persuasion is, you have to realize that they are all human beings, they are all made in the image and likeness of God, and they bear the image of God, and they are all lovable.
We need to love others, not hate them. We need to seek for unity, rather than separation. There is no good thing that can come out of hating others, and disavowing others and suppressing others. The whole goal of the heroes program is realizing that any person, no matter who they are, when they do good for somebody else, can be a hero. It is an ongoing thing.
You can be a hero everyday if you are helping others. I know that you do that Paulie. I know that you strive to help others, and that is one of the reasons why I chose you.
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