"Learn the Secrets of the Success of the World's Greatest Athletes, Movie Stars, Famous People and Celebrities From Michael Levine, the Most Brilliant Public Relations Expert Who Represents The 'Whose Who' in Hollywood" by Ralph Zuranski
Enjoy this amazing interview of Michael Levine by Super Star Mind Reader Robert Channing.
Robert Channing: How are you doing today?
Michael Levine: Hi Robert. How are you my friend?
Robert Channing: Oh it’s fantastic to have you on the line today, talking to you. Listen Michael, public relations affect every area of life doesn’t it?
Michael Levine: Well, I don’t know if it affects every area of life. But it certainly has a profound impact on the way contemporary business is done in America in the early 21st century.
Public relations would be kind of like; an analogy I use is this Tiffany Theory. The Tiffany Theory says that if I came to visit you today and I gave you a gift and I gave it to you in a Tiffany box, in your mind, the gift would have a higher perceived value.
The reason that’s true is not because you’re a psychological fool. It’s true because we live in a world that perceives value in the wrappings we use for products.
Robert Channing: I could be a psychological fool (laughing).
Michael Levine: Well, you may be but that’s not the reason it would have a higher perceived value. The reason it would have a higher perceived value is because you and I and every person listening to this right now, live in a culture in which we gift wrap everything.
We gift wrap our politicians. We gift wrap our corporate heads, our movie and TV stars and even our toilet paper. Public relations are like gift wrapping. That’s why the process is so important.
Robert Channing: Well, isn’t it important to learn how to sell ourselves and services in the field of business and in our own personal lives?
Michael Levine: No. It is only important to learn how to sell ourselves if we want to be successful. If we want to be a failure, it’s not important in the least. But, if you want to be successful, particularly in today’s contemporary environment it is important.
You see, there is competition today. If you owned a business, let’s say 30 or 40 years ago or 50 years ago, there might be competition from your local city, perhaps even from your local region. Unlikely, there would be much competition from the rest of your state and certainly not from this nation or other nations.
But today, as my dear friend Thomas Friedman reminds us, "The world is flat." We are being competed with today by virtually everyone on planet earth. The internet has allowed about two and a half billion people in the last ten years to plug and play.
Therefore, the competition is significantly greater. With that, competition places a greater pressure on us to market smarter, better, faster, quicker. We found out that the average business in America spends 4% of its gross on marketing.
Robert Channing: Four percent, that’s a low amount isn’t it?
Michael Levine: Well, the average business does. Take all businesses from the biggest company to a shoe shine shop in your local community and they spend approximately a total of 4% of their gross on marketing.
Robert Channing: I see. I would think it would be a lot higher than that.
Michael Levine: Yeah, well, that’s what it is. Now, the 500 fastest growing businesses in America spend 11% of their gross on marketing.
Robert Channing: How interesting.
Michael Levine: So what we’ve learned, really is that if you want to hyper grow your business or create a brand leadership where you’re number one or number two in your brand category, you’ve got to out market your competition about three to one.
Robert Channing: Now the meeting planners that are out there listening. How would that affect the meeting planning industry because we have a lot of independent meeting planners that are listening to this today? They have a ton of competition out there.
Michael Levine: Well, that’s exactly the point. Meeting planners have to think of their business as a business. To the extent that they want to be very successful in their business, see, if they don’t care about being very successful, if they’re just interested in doing the minimum and getting the minimum, they don’t really have to listen to this very much.
They don’t have to market very much. But if they have a deep desire to touch magic, to create something memorable, to do something that not only will they be remembered for, but will be very profitable and a brand entity that some day may be sellable, an equity that may be sellable. Then they’re going to have to out market their competition about three to one.
They’re going to have to do it in traditional and nontraditional ways.
Robert Channing: Can you give us some examples with the maybe one to three of what you would start out with?
Michael Levine: Oh well, of course. Marketing is just really a fancy word for sales. On the street, people call it sales. At Harvard, they call it marketing. So sales are broken up into three categories. Or, at least, I break it up into three categories.
The first is advertising. Advertising is what you pay for. It could be anything. It could be direct mail. It could be TV. It could be radio. But advertising is what you pay for.
Public relations are what you pray for. Advertising is what you pay for; PR is what you pray for. That’s those stories that you see in Time or Newsweek or People or Us or LA Times, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today.
Robert Channing: What the investment would be in advertising if they hired, for example, I could spend $50,000 in advertising, maybe once in a quarter or I could spend $5,000 in PR and that PR would probably, most likely, be if I get a good hit, give me millions of dollars if not hundreds of thousands or even tens of thousand of dollars worth of free publicity.
Would you agree people pay attention more to the PR, something that is written by someone else instead of the standard advertising written by us?
Michael Levine: You’re exactly right. The Harvard study on that says that a story of exactly the same size as an ad has a believability, accredibility ratio of ten to one. If an ad is worth $50,000, the exact same story, the exact same size would be worth $500,000.
Robert Channing: How beautiful is that?
Michael Levine: But the point, also, I think we have to be very direct with our listeners today. While you are exactly right that public relations is a very high leverage, high potential return, there are no guarantees. Business, another word for business is risk. If you want guarantees, get out of business.
Robert Channing: How true that is.
Michael Levine: Get out of it. Go get a job at the post office or working for FEMA. But if you want risk and you’re willing to take some chances and become part of the greatest economic wealth producing system in the history of humanity, then you should advertise. You should do PR. You should also get involved in word of mouth.
Robert Channing: Would that be your third pier that you were talking about?
Michael Levine: That’s the third pier. Yes sir. Word of mouth could be going to an event and going to chamber things and contacting people in your local community or speaking. That could be word of mouth.
The truth is you have to have all three of those categories, those engines firing off at a very high and efficient level for your marketing machine to be sailing in an aggressive manner.
Robert Channing: Let me ask you this, Michael. If we could take a magnifying glass and peer into Michael Levine’s life and we looked over your shoulder on a daily basis and these three factors were there, what do you do to get out in the public eye? What do you do to advertise? What do you do for public relations for your clients and yourself?
Michael Levine: Well, I think the question today is a different answer today than it was say 20 years ago. See, 20 years ago I was a self-educated guy. I didn’t go to college. I started a PR firm and went on to represent the biggest stars in the world. You mentioned some of them; Michael Jackson, Barbara Streisand, Charlton Heston, Nancy Kerrigan, Demi Moore, Michael Fox, Sandra Bullock, David Bowie, Prince, Kareem Adbul-Jabbar, Jon Voight, Fleetwood Mac, Cameron Diaz.
Robert Channing: Amazing.
Michael Levine: Dave Chappelle, John Stewart.
Robert Channing: I love Dave Chappelle.
Michael Levine: Bill O’Reilly, Ozzy Osbourne, Suzanne Somers and a whole host of others. So today I’m asked to be on television and radio more times. I’m asked to be on television and radio more times in a six month period than most people are in five lifetimes. I have the advantage of getting on television; CNN, Fox News, Good Morning America, Today Show, Nightline.
Also I’ve been interviewed by radio, newspaper. So my marketing, if you will, is staying today in part by the media having selected me as one of the people that they choose to call to define what’s going on in contemporary culture with the media.
Robert Channing: That being said. Using that for yourself, how would you intersect, use that with your clients or even people that are just listening, these folks on the line? The meeting planners are listening right now. How could they use your services as well as maybe take some tips of what you’re doing?
Michael Levine: Well the first thing I would do, if anyone was listening to this, and they could do it for free is really terrific. There’s a gentleman in California who a couple of years ago started a web site based on my book. It’s called www.GuerrillaPR.net. It’s absolutely terrific. G U E R R I L L A P R dot net.
You can go on the site and there are endless amounts of free information about guerrilla PR including a free weekly marketing newsletter. It’s terrific. It gives you as much free information as you want. It costs you exactly zero. I really think it could be of value. It’s a good way of starting the education process.
Robert Channing: Now, getting back to what you were saying. You had no college education.
Michael Levine: No.
Robert Channing: You started from nothing, self-taught, self-educated.
Michael Levine: Yes sir.
Robert Channing: How did you do it?
Michael Levine: Okay. I’m going to tell you. Here’s how you do it, okay. First, before I tell you how you do it, I’m going to tell you why you do it.
Robert Channing: That’s very important.
Michael Levine: Ladies and gentleman, listen very, very carefully to this because this is the product of 25 years of experience working with the biggest stars in the world. This is why you do it because in the end, human beings respect wisdom, but obey pain.
If you feel sufficiently motivated, sufficiently scared, in my case, fearful and frightened and in pain, I didn’t know what I was going to do. I had no education, no parenting to speak of, and no good parenting. I was born into a home with alcoholism.
So I had a sufficient level of discomfort or pain to motivate me to try and want to do something. It was that burning maniacal rage. That pain, that feeling as if I had a gun in my mouth that drove me to seek and ultimately find the answers. That’s why I did it, because people respect wisdom, but obeys pain. I was scared.
Robert Channing: So you had a burning desire. You had more than a burning desire. You had a feeling of emptiness that you needed to fill that void in a sense. Would that be right?
Michael Levine: No. I had a feeling of fullness. A gun in my mouth is a rather full feeling.
Robert Channing: Oh, okay.
Michael Levine: I felt like my only chance was to fight to make my own way. I would encourage others listening to this to consider this. If you are not willing to fight as if your life depended on it, you’re probably not willing to win because there’s someone out there who will.
You see, when Michael Jordon went out to play basketball, Robert. He probably didn’t go and see his teammates at the beginning of the game and say, “Look fellows. We have a game tonight. If we win, we win and if we lose, we lose. Let’s just see what happens. I certainly hope we win. But let’s have a good time, see what happens.”
That’s not how Michael Jordon played basketball.
Robert Channing: No. I don’t think they’d hire him.
Michael Levine: He played basketball as if his life depended on it. Bill Clinton ran for president as if his life depended on it. I began my PR firm with an approach that my life depended on it and I worked 24 hours a days, seven days a week with a burning maniacle rage of intensity. That was what I did and how I did it.
Think of yourself. Everybody listen to this. Imagine yourself, I say to you, “Listen. I would like you to find a kind of bicycle that you rode when you were a child.”
You would say to me, “Well gee, Mr. Levine. I don’t know where to look for it. I don’t know where to find such a bicycle I’d have ridden when I was a child. Those are old bicycles. I wouldn’t know where to begin to look.” And that would be the answer you would give me.
Robert Channing: I’d go to a garage sale.
Michael Levine: Right. You might go to a garage sale. But imagine how you would answer that question differently. Ladies and gentlemen, listen to this. Ask yourself this question. How would you answer that question differently if I said, “I want you to find me a kind of bike that you rode as a child?”
And then, as I finished the question, I stuck my hand in my pocket. I removed from my pocket a revolver and I insert it in your mouth. I said, “In the next 24 hours, one of two things is going to be on that pad of paper you’re holding.”
Robert Channing: Incredible!
Michael Levine: “Either your brains or some information on how to find a bike that’s similar to the one that you rode as a child.” What would happen to that experience?
Robert Channing: I’d say 90% of the people would have their brains on there.
Michael Levine: Well, I think what would happen; I think 100% of the people would approach the problem with more intensity.
Robert Channing: I agree.
Michael Levine: More creativity, more determination because they value survival. Then the question becomes what would happen if I or you or someone could seduce them to consider what life would feel like if they valued creativity and excellence as much as they did survival. That’s what I did.
Robert Channing: That’s incredible Michael. Your lecture is called Success Secrets of the Superstars. In that lecture, can you tell us a little bit more about what you’re going to deliver for the people listening?
Michael Levine: Sure. I was obsessed with the question, because I was self-educated. I became obsessed for two decades with one question. I was working alongside the biggest stars in the world. I wanted to know what was it that those stars knew that I didn’t know that mere mortals didn’t know. How did they do it?
How did they go from nothing to the greatest success in their field? Because at first glance, Oprah Winfrey and Bill Gates didn’t look like they had anything in common.
Robert Channing: Right. They came from nothing, right? Bill Gates.
Michael Levine: Yeah and they looked like they had nothing in common except they were both rich. So I began this 20 year journey on trying to autopsy what were the secrets, if any that were common 100% of the time, predictable, in super achievers of any fields.
I found out that I, to the best of my ability, 20 years of journey, said that there were three things that all super achievers had in common. If you applied these three things to your work, you could create super achievement in your field.
Robert Channing: Now, you’re going to tell us what these three secrets are. You’re not going to let us wait.
Michael Levine: No. I’ll be happy to tell you. They’re what I refer to the three magic Os. Three magic Os.
Robert Channing: Okay. And it’s Oprah Winfrey.
Michael Levine: Here are the people, here are the secrets, that if you apply to your life in a serious and committed way, you will have remarkable impact on your career and create a relationship that makes super achievement possible. Here they are.
Robert Channing: I’ve got my pen and paper out.
Michael Levine: Here they are. First is obsession. If you want to be super successful, by the way, if you don’t want to be super successful, I’m not talking about one in a thousand or one in a million. I’m talking about Michael Jordan. I’m talking about Bill Gates. I’m talking about Nelson Mandela. I’m talking about Bill Clinton. I’m talking about.
Robert Channing: Michael Levine!
Michael Levine: People who are the defining people in their field. You have to have one, an obsession, and a burning, maniacal rage. Act as if your life depended on it, an obsession, and a burning, maniacal rage as if your life depended on it.
Number two is optimism. It was very interesting studying people. The optimism I’m speaking of is not kind of goofy. Like a cartoon, everything’s going to be fine.
Robert Channing: I think I can, I think I can.
Michael Levine: Right. It was optimism that was paradoxical. What I mean by that is it was optimism that came after. It was an optimism that was born after a militant willingness to look at brutal facts. The brutal facts that the people found were the game is not easy and the game is not fair.
Robert Channing: That’s so true.
Michael Levine: But, while the game is not easy and while the game is not fair, through the use of enough burning, maniacal rage; focus concentrated efforts.
Robert Channing: Like a bullet in flight.
Michael Levine: The game is winnable, though not easy and though not fair. The greatest thing I ever heard said on optimism was said by General Colin Powell. He said it in only six words. Robert, what he said is, “Perpetual optimism is a force multiplier.”
He’s a military general so what I think he was saying is if you took ten men and you saturated them with optimism, just gave them saturated amounts of optimism, those ten men could fight with the force of fifty.
If you took that exact same group of ten men, a group exactly the same and you saturated them with negativity, those ten men couldn’t fight with the force of two. So the second magic O was optimism but it was a paradoxical optimism.
Robert Channing: So we have obsession, a burning desire. We have optimism.
Michael Levine: Perpetual optimism is a force multiplier, optimism born after looking at the brutal facts. Brutal facts are the game is not easy, the game is not fair. But through enough burning, maniacal rage the game is winnable.
Number three is a sense of obligation, keeping your word, principally to yourself. Obligation is a word to describe a hyper sense of responsibility. If you say that you’re going to do something next Wednesday at 4:00 pm you must not complete, do that task Wednesday at 5:15.
It is very important. The people that were super successful had a sense of obligation, a sense of the tasks were assignments that they had a deep commitment. With the third magic O, the sense of obligation, hyper responsibility, hyper willingness to take responsibility when they weren’t, the one in a thousand times they weren’t able to keep their word.
The people that they were held responsible for that were themselves. They were deeply, deeply obligated and responsible, principally to themselves.
Robert Channing: And they felt the pain. Like you talked about, the pain itself.
Michael Levine: Oh, it was missing a deadline was a painful experience for the super successful. They saw their word. They meant what they said and they said what they meant and meant what they said.
Robert Channing: With integrity as well.
Michael Levine: With deep integrity, deep. When they didn’t keep their word they didn’t blame Bush or Cheney or traffic or the world or their mother-in-law. They blamed themselves. With the third magic O comes a voluntary homework assignment. It’s the only voluntary; it’s the only homework assignment I give. It’s voluntary.
But I can tell everybody listening to this right now. That it is a homework assignment that they can do in the next 24 hours. They can do it in ten minutes or less and they can do it for free. So in the next 24 hours you can do it. You can do it in ten minutes or less and you can do it for free.
Robert Channing: Ralph, are you there with us?
Ralph Zuranski: I am there. I’m writing down all that Michael is saying.
Robert Channing: Ralph is awestruck. He is awestruck Michael as well as I am. What you’re just giving us right now is so true and I’ve been one to study motivational speakers and all the past, the Biblical writings and you’re laying it out for us in three Os which is fantastic.
Michael Levine: Well thank you. You’re very kind. It was born of experience, pain, hard knocks, and real world. It wasn’t created in a Harvard MBA program. It was born out of real visceral, palpable experience.
Robert Channing: And by the way, your books are in Yale, Harvard, is that correct? Are they in college and universities?
Michael Levine: Well yeah I’m very touched, I was surprised but touched to know that Guerrilla PR is now taught at the top 25 business schools in America. It’s taught in all 25.
Robert Channing: Unbelievable.
Michael Levine: It’s been translated into six languages, so.
Robert Channing: And you’re originally from New York, Michael?
Michael Levine: I was born in New York City about two and a half miles north of Ground Zero.
Robert Channing: Wow.
Robert Channing: I’m calling you right now; we’re on the line right now doing the radio show. I’m at Waldorf Astoria on a little vacation and we’re going to Tiffany’s.
Michael Levine: Good for you.
Robert Channing: Just to check things out. We’re not going to spend as much money as you.
Michael Levine: Well, in the year 2006, I just got news that I have purchased a co-op in New York and I’m going to be spending a lot more time there. Allow me if I can to give Ralph and the others a voluntary homework assignment.
Robert Channing: We’d love to hear it.
Michael Levine: It can be done in the next 24 hours. It can be done in ten minutes or less. It can be done for free and if you do it, Ralph, it will instantly and radically change your life more than any self-help book, a thousand self help books.
Robert Channing: A thousand self help books?
Michael Levine: In this one act, all you have to do is this one homework assignment. You can do it in 24 hours or less. You can do it in 24 hours, in under ten minutes for free. Here we go. Are you ready Ralph?
Ralph Zuranski: I’m ready.
Michael Levine: Here’s what you have to do. You have to go home, in the next 24 hours, and make a commitment to fire your flaky friends. That’s it. You have to go home, in the next 24 hours, and make a commitment to fire your flaky friends.
Robert Channing: Ralph, I think I’m going to get off the phone right now and call up half a dozen people.
Michael Levine: Okay. Well, here’s why every person listening to the show should consider my homework assignment. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing is more deleterious, more negative to your development as a super successful person than the second hand fumes of flakiness.
Being around an environment in which people are flaky, are irresponsible, do not keep their word, will have a horrible, horrible deleterious, negative, deeply damaging impact on your capacity to become super successful. That’s why the concept of firing your flaky friends is so invaluable.
Robert Channing: Because they’re wasting your time, right?
Michael Levine: Well, they’re more than wasting your time. In fact, I’ve said if I had the choice between taking anyone listening to this show and locking them in a small room, enclosed room for 24 hours with either second hand cigarette smoke or second hand flakiness, there’s no question that I would much prefer they be in that room with second hand cigarette smoke because you can see.
Robert Channing: You can see life experiences on, personally from you.
Michael Levine: Yeah, the truth is the second hand cigarette smoke may or may not annoy you. The second hand flakiness will kill you. So, that is the homework assignment. Those are the three magic Os. They’re obsession, optimism and obligation.
Robert Channing: And fire your flaky friends.
Michael Levine: Fire you flaky friends. That grows out of number three, obligation.
Robert Channing: You know a lot of people out there listening. They’re going, “Oh, okay Michael. You know, that sounds pretty elementary. It’s a bold statement. But how true is that?”
That is very true folks, people listening out there right now. People bring you down. It’s called in England the, what is it, the dog, the small dog theory where there’s a kennel of little puppies. The little dog is just trying to get over the top and he’s finally up there and all the little puppies are pulling at him to bring him down instead of pushing him up to put him over.
Again, get rid of the puppies that are pulling you down. Get the ones that are going to be on your side and have like-minded people, like Michael Levine, on your side. Or people that you can go to and actually his web sites, and find out free information about the top of the best of the best of the industry.
Michael Levine: I’ve got a great new web site. I have a book out now that I’d like to share the web site with you. It’s called www.BrokenWindows.com. I’ve created a new book that’s just out from Warner Books called Broken Windows, Broken Business.
It’s a theory of how little things matter a great deal in business. We have a great web site called www.BrokenWindows.com and I’d like to recommend it to your listeners.
Robert Channing: Well terrific. We have a few more minutes with you Michael. I just have a couple more questions. Being that we’re on the phone with a lot of event planners, college event planners, corporate and meeting event planners. Having worked with so many famous people, what advice can you give your event planners to maximize the benefits of their speakers or entertainers that they hire for their events?
Michael Levine: I think that in all business relationships, there is a buyer and a seller and you have to determine initially who you are. Who are you? Are you the buyer or are you the seller? So in your relationship with a celebrity, you are, in fact, the buyer. They are the seller.
You have to figure out, look at life from your, the person’s you are doing business with, point of view. Try and answer the question, what’s in it for them? Don’t ask; don’t think about what’s in it for you. Think about what’s in it for them.
It’s almost like reverse engineering a process. If you want a pizza parlor, don’t think about how you can make the pizza cheaper or go home earlier. Think about what’s in it for the customer.
Well, the same is true if you’re a meeting planner. You have a job to do. Think about what’s in it for the customer. How can I make the event, how I add value to the event?
Robert Channing: Make the experience a memorable experience for them.
Michael Levine: Right, actionable, usable. Can they take something home with them? Is there a guide, a study guide? Is there a way of making this experience better, faster, cheaper, smarter, and memorable? How can I make it unique? You know, all leaders do, and leaders do everything that their competitors do very well. They do one more thing.
Your job, if you’re deeply dedicated to excellence as a meeting planner is to figure out that one more thing, that one extra value added thing. Now the problem with my theory is, of course, that it forces you to work harder, longer. You’re not going to be taking four weeks off on Christmas if you use my theories.
Robert Channing: What about the theories of working smarter not harder? How does that collate with what you say?
Michael Levine: Well my experience has taught me that you need to do both. In today’s world, you need to work smarter and harder. These people that, you know, people who throw around the terms you need to work smarter not harder are usually people trying to justify laziness.
Robert Channing: Exactly.
Michael Levine: You need to work both, harder and smarter. There are people all over this world competing with us right now in India, in China, in the former Soviet Union. They don’t take their birthday off.
Robert Channing: They put 16, 24 hour days in sometimes.
Michael Levine: They don’t take their birthday off. They don’t take a week off for Thanksgiving. They don’t take a month off for Christmas. They don’t take Ground Hog Day off. They work weekends and they love that Americans, frankly, have adopted an attitude of entitlement.
It’s very common now in major metropolitan cities in America to hear women, frequently, if you ask them what they’re doing next Tuesday and they’ll say, “Well, Tuesday is my birthday.”
You say, “Great. What are you doing?”
They’ll say, “Well, I’m taking the day off from work.” It’s very common. This is unthinkable 30 years ago. Who took their birthday off from work? But this is very common, very common, you know.
Robert Channing: Entitlement is what you’re telling us.
Michael Levine: Entitlement, right. When your parents were growing up, they would have Thanksgiving off from work, right?
Robert Channing: Right.
Michael Levine: Today, you get Thanksgiving off, you get the Friday after Thanksgiving off and usually you get to leave early on Wednesday. Now, if you don’t get the Friday of Thanksgiving off, your boss or your business is considered very mean.
Robert Channing: What do you think about that Michael?
Michael Levine: I think it’s outrageous. By the way, I think that it’s our culture is at war with many other cultures in terms of the, they are racing us, not to the bottom. They’re racing us to the top.
If we are going to maintain our leadership position in the world, which God hope we do, we are going to have to find ways to work not only smarter but harder. We are not going to be able to do this with a four week, six week vacation cycle like Europe.
Robert Channing: They’re trying to get students to only go to four day classes.
Michael Levine: This is absolutely nuts. Listen, you know who loves this kind of thinking? People in India, people in China, people in the former Soviet Union; they think it’s great. They think, “Hey Nancy. Take your birthday off. That’s cool. Take two days off. Great, you need it. You deserve it. You’re an American.”
Robert Channing: And they’re going to clean up.
Michael Levine: You bet. You bet. You have to work harder and smarter if you want to win. Now, if you don’t want to win, you can do any damn thing you want.
Robert Channing: You know Michael. It’s been great having you on the radio show today. The Success Secrets of the Super Stars. I watched your DVD a few times because www.PowerPerfomers.com, we’re right now in the pursuit of getting you some dates for big corporations as well as colleges and universities.
You had mentioned on that DVD of keep on keeping on, keeping on, keeping on, keeping on, keeping on, keeping on, keeping on, keeping on, keep going, no matter what.
Michael Levine: You know, I think life really is one question with two parts. Every person listening to this should ask themselves this one question. Here’s the question. It has two parts to it. What do you most want and what are you willing to give up to get it?
Until you can answer that question with two parts, really with enthusiasm and effectiveness, you’re just playing at life. You have to be able to answer the question what do you most want and what are you willing to give up to get it. When you can do that, really magical things start to happen, particularly when you use the three magic Os.
Robert Channing: Wonderful. Well then my last question today is what is the most valuable advice you can share today with our listeners?
Michael Levine: Begin with that question. You see most people who are under achieving, are under achieving not because they’re not smart. They’re under achieving because they don’t know where they’re going.
There’s a great little piece in a story of Alice in Wonderland. Alice is walking down the road and she comes to this fork in the road and she doesn’t know which way to turn. She looks up at the Cheshire cat and she says, “Cheshire Cat, which road should I take?”
The Cheshire cat looks down and says, “Alice, if you don’t know where you’re going, it doesn’t really matter what road you take.”
Most people who are under achieving don’t have a deeply firm committed vision to where they want to end up. It’s got to be written. If you don’t know where you’re going, it doesn’t really matter what road you take.
Robert Channing: I agree. They say most people don’t plan to fail, they fail to plan.
Michael Levine: Yeah, yeah. You’ve got to make your goals accountable. You can’t say to your friend, “Hey, next year I want to lose weight.” I want to know how many pounds by what date.
You’ve got to make your goals accountable, discernable. You can’t say, “I want to move out West.” You have to say, “I want to move to Los Angeles.” If you want to move.
Robert Channing: A friend of yours and mine, Adam Christing had mentioned that one of the things he says is to put a deadline on it.
Michael Levine: I think you should create some kind of accountability for yourself. I think you should also get an accountability partner. I think you should find someone, preferably a same sex member, not a wife, a same sex member who shares your vision and holds you accountable as you hold them. Maybe a weekly or monthly meeting, phone meeting, in person meeting, have an accountability partner. I think that these are the beginning seeds of greatness.
Robert Channing: Now do you have an accountability partner as well?
Michael Levine: Yes sir I do.
Robert Channing: You have mentors I’m sure?
Michael Levine: I do and I’ve been. Of course, one of the greatest ways of learning something is by teaching it. So I speak frequently in an effort to learn myself.
Robert Channing: That’s wonderful. Well I appreciate it, Michael, you being on the phone with me today and with Ralph on the Power Performer’s Radio Show. In closing I’d like to thank everybody out there listening, all the meeting and event planners, all the sports stars, celebrities that are listening today.
Michael, if there is anything that we can do in the future, please don’t hesitate to call us. We’d love to have you on again.
Michael Levine: Well you’re very kind. Thank you so much for sharing your audience. I hope it was of some value.
Robert Channing: Thanks so much Michael. Ralph, thanks for joining us as well. I know you’ve been there probably writing all the notes down so we can put them up on the web site at www.PowerPerformersRadioShow.com.
One more time guys, thanks so much for being on today and Happy New Year 2006.
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